Transcript of the Joe Rogan Experience

October 31, 2012 · 34 comments

Joe Rogan’s show is called The Joe Rogan Experience for good reason. Joe’s fans called this one of his most awesome two hour interviews on twitter, and even the most hardcore Bulletproof fans found new information. Joe actually tried out my CES (cerebral electric stimulation) brain hacking machine, we talked coffee, brains, nutrition, neurofeedback, float tanks, smart drugs, radiation, and a lot more.

People talked about listening to the show 2-3 times just to take notes, so we asked for a volunteer to make a transcript.  We had an amazing volunteer, Zack “Deep Theory” Sadeq, transcribe the show in exchange for a bag of  Upgraded Whey and a whole lot of good will.

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JR: So for folks who don’t have the patience to go and listen to this podcast again there’s a [*!@&]load of information on this site. As well as, not just the Upgraded MCT oil, you’ve got Upgrade Coffee, everything’s Upgraded. Upgraded Chef.

DA: Yep. And here’s what it means when it’s upgraded; I’m looking at the whole process of making something and how you make that process as good as it can be. My background, I really am a computer hacker. I’ve studied computer science, I work in computer security. I’m not an actively a hacker, I’m an executive but I understand the mindset of changing a system to get the outcome that you want. It turns out to make the coffee, the problem is actually how the beans get turn into green coffee. That’s where most of the problems happen. So I went through and I learned all about this stuff through multiple disciplines, pulled it all together and said, “What if I created this new process for making the coffee that didn’t have the toxins in it? And you look at that. We’re about done with the study where we’re getting advice from Stanford University on the cognitive function of this coffee. So we’re comparing normal coffee versus this upgraded coffee to show what it does to your response time and your attention. We don’t have enough results to be statistically significant yet we’re still recruiting people. The results I have say ,” Yeah, it works.” So this is real stuff and every step of the way when you create a food, it tells you how that food is going to make you perform. And what I’m trying to do is help people understand if for one day they could have the best day ever, where there energy and there focus and everything is super clear and they feel like a great golden god… if you do that one time you know you’re capable of it and you can start working towards that. Most people I know have felt like crap without knowing it most of their life. They’ve never had a wonderful day. Once you have that day, you can learn how to kick more ass repeatedly. So its like, get all the crap out of your diet, just do it right for a week. Then just see what can happen. Look at the comments on my blog. People, they do this and it takes like six weeks. It’s not that hard to do. All of the sudden, you have twice the energy you have before. That’s what I’m looking to do for people.

JR: Jiu-Jitsu guys are always [taking fish oil]. A lot of guys who are doing cross fit as well need heavy doses of fish oil.

DA: Yeah it’s an anti-inflammatory. It’s good stuff. But I tell you if you use krill it’s going to work a lot better.

JR: Krill?

DA: Krill has the same EP and DHA but it’s phosphorylated. It’s bound to phospholipids which means your brain can use it directly. Fish oil has to be phosphorylated, meaning you need to get extra phosphoserine or choline to do that.

JR: So you have to take choline supplements if you take fish oil to get the optimum effect?

DA: Or maybe just eat eggs.

JR: Eggs have choline?

DA: Yeah, here’s the thing. Some of the super strong choline supplements, there’s no question they have a really beneficial effect in most people. In some people, too much choline has a reverse effect. It’s probably maybe a third of people. So this is one of those things where if you get it in your food you’re good, and if the choline supplements make you feel really good, which they do for a vast majority of the people. I’m a fan of choline supplements in general, I recommend them on the blog. You’ve got that ingredient in Alpha Brain. By the way, that’s just a killer list of nootropic ingredients. I fully approve that. That’s a Bulletproof level supplement for sure.

JR: Awesome. Thank you.

DA: The thing is though if you’re one of those choline sensitive people you might not want a ton of choline. You want to limit yourself to a certain amount.

JR: Yeah we’ve had issues with that. With people getting really sensitive. Some people get headaches.

DA: Some people get jaw tension, some people get headaches. Yeah and those are the people who are choline dominant. But here’s the kicker; you get those people to take aniracetam like I have on my site. Aniracetam uses up extra choline. So that’s an interesting way of using a smart drug. This is actually a drug, not a natural substance. But it’s one that will bring your choline levels down, which means you can benefit from the other stuff that’s in AlphaBrain. But you also get this boost from the other type of nootropic.

JR: How many different things do you take a day?

DA: I take probably on an average day about 40 pills.

[Laughter]

JR: See, I told you I’m not crazy.

DA: No, here’s the crazy number. When I was really getting my health all the way where I wanted it, before I was where I am, I did one-hundred and eighty-seven pills a day for several months.

JR: Now what about the actual capsule itself, what are those made out of? Gelatin? Is that no big deal for your body to process?

DA: You actually need gelatin. Our diets are gelatin deficient right now.

What have you applied from the show that you’ve seen results from?  What was your favorite part of the show?

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  • everyone

    why…..?

    • Dave Asprey

      Because lots if people wanted it?

      Sent from my nobile phone. You understand….

  • http://www.facebook.com/frank.boomer.9 Frank Boomer

    Appreciate the effort, thanks

  • Paul

    I’ve signed up just now and a couple of days ago and never receive an email or any pdfs

    • Don

      same here

      • Gabriel

        Working now

      • abright

        Have you checked your spam box? Several people have reported a similar issue only to find a request for confirmation e-mail in their spam box.

        Additionally, if you’ve ever signed up before, you won’t get a new e-mail. Instead search your inbox (if your e-mail provider allows that) for the term “biohacker toolbox”, as, when people sign up they first get a request for confirmation, and then, after they’ve confirmed, get a “Welcome” e-mail with instructions on getting to the biohacker toolbox. Once you’re in the toolbox, there is a link to the PDF of the transcript.

  • Davis

    When is PDF going be available ?

    • abright

      If you sign up in the biohacker toolbox, you’ll get the transcript as a PDF.

  • Biggie

    Liar all hated it read JRE chat of the show

  • Perci

    Thanks buddy, you’ve created another fanboy. lol

  • Nicholas Weight

    This really was one of my favourite podcasts. I had to keep pausing to get all the info down. So many good things.

    Love the Bulletproof coffee and saw that you had a blog about supplementing it with green tea which made me curious. Have you heard of Crio Bru? It’s cocoa beans brewed like coffee and supposedly it has all these good things in it (like chromium, magnesium, serotonin and antioxidents. *which I recently learned from their kickstarter video…since I originally just got it because it sounded good hehe).

    I would be interested to hear your take on it and if it would be considered bulletproof since I have been drinking it and love it?

    • Dave Asprey

      Haven’t tried crio bru; it’s a question of what beans they use. Probably ok.
      Sent from my nobile phone. You understand….

  • Gary Hopper

    Amazing podcast…Dave we need to find someone that can manufacture the electronic brain stimulator like the one you use on the show with the variable speeds so that we can make it available for the average person…have you looked into this yet?

  • Gabriel

    Thanks for the transcript! Excellent work with links and good layout. Can you please tell which service do you hire for this?

    • abright

      Gabriel, a volunteer, Zack, transcribed it (his twitter name is listed above). And the layout and links were done by Dave & his team.

      • Gabriel

        Thanks abright, I missed it (my bad sight and low contrast probably).

  • Ruben

    I wonder what Dave’s stand on marijuana use? Is it bad or good for the brain and body?

  • Gemalen

    Great stuff Dave. But just to make one thing clear, should I stay away from omega 6? Im taking the 3-6-9 right now. Is it better to bulk up on 3′s only, or should we all just get on the Krill wagon?

    • Dave Asprey

      There is no need to supplement with 6; it’s everywhere. Krill rocks.

      Sent from my nobile phone. You understand….

  • Poophead

    Dave this was already said but what’s your stance on marijuana?

    • Dave Asprey

      Eating us better than smoking, so is nebulizing. Less harmful than alcohol. Legalize it already!
      May inhibit learning new brain states so not good during brain training.
      Sent from my nobile phone. You understand….

  • Rob

    Dave, I just listened to the podcast a second time and I heard you mention penicillin being a mold extract and that reminded me that I’m allergic to it. Are there any specific foods or food groups I should avoid completely because of that? Thanks!

    • Dave Asprey

      Anything (including buildings) infected with penicillium!

      Sent from my nobile phone. You understand….

  • Katie

    Thankful for the transcript and the guy who took the time to write it out. Obviously, there are going to be some errors in transcription, but I wanted to make sure you knew of one that you might want to change. Each time you say ‘leptin resistance’ in the podcast, the transcript says ‘lecithin resistance’. Just wanted to let you know in case changing it was worth your time. If not, no worries. :)

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  • Sofia

    Dave, my health has improved tremendously in the four weeks I’ve been following the diet, especially my auto-immune symptoms, and I have many friends closely tracking my progress. Two have joined me. I have a friend who probably has thyroid problems and has recently been struggling with some terrible health problems, probably rheumatoid arthritis. She is vegetarian and eats tons of processed soy, cheese, and grains. Her mom and others have asked me to help her change her diet. She is overwhelmed and feels too ill to figure out new eating habits. I am willing to provide her with a week or two of meals to see if she feels better. But I’m not sure how to deal with the protein part if she won’t eat meat and should not eat beans or cheese. Your upgraded whey is not vegetarian. So. Lots of eggs? Another brand of whey? I have searched this site and seen lots of questions from vegetarians but not a lot of answers. I’m extra interested because my husband is a vegetarian (over 20 years) and has no desire to change. ( As for me, my dad just brought me a fresh deer heart that I devoured with avocado…) Thank you for any insight.

    • http://www.facebook.com/HEMAAN John Stejre

      Hi, regarding the protein so unless you lift heavy or train very hard cardio several times a week you dont need any protein, you will get it from everything ells and belive me i know.

  • Juicy J

    Do you think she should be suckin dick for homework and gettin that dome worked?

  • Sophie z

    Hi Dave, first can I say thankyou so much for the most informative pod cast I have ever heard, I am one of those people who listens to it over and over to take notes, it was great. One of the things that concerned me in particular was synthetic estrogen. I am on the contraceptive pill and have been for 6 years. I am really hoping you could give me some information on how the pill effects the body, as I am desperately trying to improve my health and mental function through the bulletproof diet and feel that maybe I am being hindered by my birth control. All the information I find, and doctors I ask provide information that is really generalized and not terribly in depth. If you could point me in the right direction for some good information and advice as to whether I should explore other alternatives if I wish to perform to my full potential, that would be amazing. I understand you are probably hesitant to tell anybody to discontinue use of their birth control, but if it’s gonna stop me performing to the best I can, I will explore other options. Thankyou so much for everything!

  • rogansbitch

    there is no way I would want to read this whole thing, does that mean I’m retarded?

  • dirtymonkey22

    Dave you said you take a spoon full of Himalayan salt every morning my Question is , is straight or in a Brine/Sole

  • http://www.facebook.com/rbernhardt Rob Bernhardt

    What’s the name of the CES device Joe tries? Is this device still available for purchase?

  • [email protected]

    It’s #275 FYI

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