How to buy Modafinil (Provigil) – and Q&A

July 20, 2012 · 105 comments

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The recent ABC Nightline piece about me using modafinil as a cognitive enhancer brought out a lot of comments.

This recent publicity became the first time some followers realized I use smart drugs, even though I have been very public for more than a decade about my use of smart drugs to increase my health and performance, including modafinil. This post is here to answer questions that lots of people are asking about modafinil and smart drugs in general.

I’ve attempted to capture them all here; if I missed one, please comment on this post.

Q: “I thought you were all natural and I’m disappointed to hear you use cognitive enhancers.”

A: This blog – and biohacking in general – is about doing all you can safely do to achieve your biological goals. My goals are to live longer, maximize my potential, and literally radiate energy. Of course I use the smart drugs that are safe, and I believe that modafinil is one of the safe ones for a variety of reasons. If you use a healthy diet, or Tylenol, to get more done, you’re doing exactly the same thing as me using smart drugs. The only exception is that Tylenol is more dangerous than most smart drugs, believe it or not (much more toxic to your liver). Many smart drugs (not including modafinil) are neuroprotective and probably extend brain cell life.

Q: How do you know your sleep hacking experiments – and the Bulletproof diet actually work? You were just hopped up on drugs.

A: I went off modafinil for 3 months in the middle of my experiment to see how I did. I was fine, but modafinil is an improvement. When I started taking it, my neurological function was such that modafinil was transformative and amazing. It was a 50% boost at the higher doses prescribed. Since 2002 when I started, I’ve increased my health and cognitive function using Bulletproof Coffee and the Bulletproof Diet and things like Upgraded Aging, which let me ramp down the dose. But most days, I take it because it gives me a 10% boost even in my already “supercharged” state. That 10% helps me be a better father, husband, and provider. It also raises my ability to meditate as measured by EEG, and it helps me to better serve others.

Modafinil helped me write The Better Baby Book and this blog, all while working full time as a successful executive and raising 2 young children. In fact, in the wake of these comments, I ran another small test. I didn’t take any modafinil. Went to sleep at 3am. Woke at 4am. Drove to airport. At 6:30am I flew from Victoria to Ottowa, arriving at 5:30pm. Business dinner until 11pm. Slept from 1:00am to 5:00am (4 hours). Had Bulletproof coffee. Sat in meetings for 8 hours straight, awake, with one more coffee. Hopped on a plane back to Victoria (7 hour total journey). No modafinil. I was alert and highly productive in the meetings – this is what vibrant health does for me. But on modafinil, I’d probably have been more alert and energetic. I’d have felt just like I do now – but more.

Q: What dose do you take?

A: I took 200mg in the morning and 100-200 at lunch at first before I discovered Bulletproof Coffee and the diet. The health increases I experienced let me ramp my dose down to 100mg/day, sometimes 50, and sometimes none. I always perform well if I eat the right foods, avoid the toxins, and have butter and MCT oil. Provigil is an added boost, not a requirement.

Q: When do you take it?

A: Morning. Maybe at lunch. I never take it at night unless I’m driving and really tired.

Q: Where do you get modafinil?

A: Get it from your doctor with a prescription.

Readers of the blog have recommended some sites for ordering online with or without a prescription, but I have not tried them and do not endorse them specifically. Use at your own risk.  I’ll make a separate post with their suggestions later today.

Q: How do I get a prescription?

A: In the US, it is legally prescribed for “shift worker sleep disorder” and narcolepsy, and insurance will usually reimburse for it. It is also commonly prescribed for ADD and ADHD, and sometimes for MS, lupus, or chronic fatigue/fibromyalgia. Describe your symptoms to your doctor. Ask for a prescription. The links here may help you fully grasp the symptoms you need to have to qualify for a prescription. (and as a side note, when are we going to decide we don’t need $150 permission slips from our doctors to decide what substances we want to put into our own bodies? But I digress . . ..)

Q: What are the risks and side effects of modafinil?

A: Low but not non-existent.  Check out my comment, and reader Elspeth’s response for more information.

Q: What do you do to mitigate the risk?

I like my brain, the risk appears low to me, however I want to give my brain additional support.   Here is what I do to keep it healthy

  • Upgraded Aging which is very neuroprotective but has multiple other anti-aging benefits too, like blood sugar, genetic expression improvements, etc.
  • MCT oil, a form of coconut oil extract with 6 times more of the active MCTs than coconut oil.  See Mary Newport podcast for discussion of how a physician used MCT oil to reverse early onset Alzheimer’s in her husband. (It also works for weight loss).
  • Upgraded Coffee (or a suitable low-toxin coffee if you don’t want to buy mine . . .) which, if brewed without a paper filter (think French Press or espresso) contains two potent anti-inflammatory brain agents, cafestol and kahweol (coffee benefits).
  • Upgraded glutathione – a very potent, highly absorbable anti-oxidant that helps the body to remove toxins rapidly. Glutathione is required in the brain.
  • Krill oil – a form of fish oil useful for the brain
  • Aniracetam – another smart drug that is neuroprotective
  • Runny or raw egg yolks – full of choline your brain needs.

Am I plugging my own products here? Yes. I designed these formulas specifically for my own health and brain function and had them made because I wanted the best for myself. I give them to my family. I sell them at a much lower profit than normal companies would. They are the best in the world. I have never made one cent from the sales – so far, all the income from all sales goes to pay for more research and the operation of this blog, which itself serves 100,000 people per month, for free. See other posts about brain health.

Q: I’m in college or high school. Should I take it?

A: God no! And stay away from Adderall (prescription meth) too. Good quality coffee (low toxin) is ok in the morning for most people at these ages. Your brain won’t be mature fully until 23-25 years old!

Q: Modafinil is a dangerous addictive narcotic like meth.

A: Uh, no it ‘s not. Not even in the stimulant category. It’s “arousal promoting” not stimulating. You can sleep after you take it; it’s just that you don’t want to. It is not a narcotic. It is not addictive – there is no street value for it. My wife, a Karolinska-trained physician who ran drug and alcohol addiction clinics, flat out says, “I’ve never had an addict ask me for it. It is not addictive.” I found I actually decreased my dose as my health improved.

Q: You used it to sleep only 5 hours a night.

A: No, I didn’t. I slept only 5 hours per night because I had things to do and I was experimenting on myself. I used modafinil to increase my performance during the day after less sleep, but I tested (for 3 months) not using modafinil at all. I programmed myself for more efficient sleep (see podcast with advanced brain monitoring) for more details.

Q: It’s immoral. If you use it, everyone else will have to.

A: No. Only those who want to will take it. Do you drink coffee? Do you use fire to stay warm? Do you use electric lights to out-compete people who have none? How about agriculture? Reading glasses? Technology for human performance is not new.

Q: Do you think you are not good enough without it?

This question makes me smile. I used biohacking to get the same brain state as someone who spends 20-40 years in daily zen practice. I am a certified heart math coach and can control my stress consciously, and I know Art of Living breathing and yoga. I *love* myself and know I’m “good enough.”

I also know my potential, and I believe I owe it to myself to do everything within my power to best serve others, including my family, coworkers, the team here at Bulletproof Executive, the thousands of people who have used this site to upgrade their lives, and the many more who keep coming here seeking knowledge. Modafinil helps me do that. What kind of man would I be if I didn’t live my life fully? I don’t know; that’s not who I am. So I will continue to use all methods I can find to maximize my abilities, including electronic, pharmaceutical (selected, safe ones), meditation, occasional exercise, Whole body vibration, supplements, Bulletproof Coffee, and the Bulletproof Diet.

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  • Howard

    One of the conditions indicated for provigil or nuvigil is sleep apnea. However, I have been unable to get my VA doc to prescribe it for me.

    • Rouzier

      Have you done a sleep study yet. That is how I was able to get mine after I was diagnosed with narcolepsy

      • Howard

        In the past 22 years, I have been through 8 sleep studies. I have been a CPAP user since being diagnosed with OSA in 1990. I still can’t get a prescription for this from the VA. I’m guessing it’s an issue with the expense. This drug is *very* pricey. I have lost about 120 lbs, so I will be getting another sleep study fairly soon, because I’m pretty sure I need to reduce my pressure substantially. Once I reach my weight goal, I may not need CPAP at all, although there is a possibility that two decades of CPAP use may have cause CSA (central sleep apnea).

        BTW, after 10 years of being stalled in my weight loss, I kickstarted it with IF.

  • Johnny J

    It was great seeing you on ABC. Thanks for doing this FAQ on Provigil. I know a lot of people will have hesitations on things like this.

    It seems like a better version of the otc drug, AlphaBrain.

  • Jack Portman

    Would modafinil be a “safer” alternative to Ritalin for a 20 year old student with ADHD? If I had to pick one to use occasionally for increased focus, which do you think is safer? Thanks

    • Andrew Nakamura

      Obviously I’m not Dave but I have a pretty negative opinion of Ritalin. I’ve seen what it does to friends of mine and its not pretty. Take my opinion with a sea of salt but I’d say Modafinil is the way to go, if you restrict your options to only those two.

    • csp8

      and most definitely stay away from adderall. i know someone that took it to get through college and her soul died somewhere along the way

      • Dave Asprey

        I’m no physician, but the safety research would make me want to use Provigil over Adderall or Ritalin for sure.

    • Dave Asprey

      We know what Ritalin does, and it’s addictive!

  • Howard

    Question for Dave: Is your Aniracetam ($25/30caps 750mg) better than the bulk stuff available for $50/100g? Or the $30/60caps 750mg) available from cognitivenutrition.com?

  • noah

    I thought a paper filter was better for coffee because it absorbs some harmful oils?

    • Dave Asprey

      Those “harmful oils” are neurological anti-inflammatories. ?

    • Christoph VonKlinger

      Trade offs and compromises…diterpenes (the oils) are not only anti-inflammatory but also antimicrobial; however, not so good for your heart or liver.

  • Howard

    Just ordered 3 bottles of your upgraded anti-aging. Said on the site that shipping was free for 3 bottles. But it charged me for shipping anyway. Hmmm….

    • Dave Asprey

      So sorry Howard. Will fix it on the site, and refund your shipping. Thanks for letting me know.

  • BrainFogAhoy!

    Hey Dave, any idea why someone would often feel a bit off when taking this? (fuzzy mind, hard to focus, slight headache, sometimes a bit grumpy even, etc.) while sometimes it seems to work? I have found it sometimes works somewhat and I’ll feel a bit (just a tiny bit!) racy high especially if I take it with caffeine… but it often doesn’t have any seemingly beneficial effects unless I take it with at least a bit of caffeine. (I’m talking 20 – 60 mg)

    It feels like it drains, burns through, or screws up my neurotransmitters or something… but other times I can get a pleasant effect and it can really help when needing to drive overnight and not sleep when you get to your destination….

    It sounds like when it works for other people, it “WORKS!”… but it only sometimes works for me… and not for as long as it should (6-8 hours at most… sometimes 3-4) or with the amazing effect that I’m expecting. I tried with the real stuff (USA branded Provigil) as well as various generics at various doses (50mg once per day up to 200mg twice a day, with various increments between to test.)

    Any ideas?

    • BrainFogAhoy!

      Heh. After re-reading my comment it strikes me that I should have proofread and edited it. Oh well, please forgive my rambling. As you can tell, no modafinil in me at all today ;-)

    • http://twitter.com/ysabet elspeth

      As many drugs, for some people, Modafinil has side effects or reduced efficacy. We don’t yet understand the mechanism of action for Modafinil, which makes it somewhere between difficult and impossible to predict who will get which side effects. Incidentally, the side effects you mention are fairly common reactions to the drug, as mentioned on the PI sheet.

      I take Modafinil every day for a medical condition, similar to narcolepsy. Some days, it only just barely keeps me conscious; other days, I’m bright and alert. I find that ineffective days tend to coincide with periods of high liver load (eg, drinking alcohol the previous day or taking other medications, such as antibiotics), not eating enough the day previous. There does also seem to be a correlation with exercise recovery and with contagious illness – that is to say, during periods my body is working hard at repair and fighting off things, Modafinil tends to work significantly less well, above and beyond the tiredness I’d normally expect to feel in those situations.

      I do not suggest increasing your dose to overcome this; rather, I’d suggest taking a long hard look (and keeping a diary) of what else is going on at the time. Keep in mind that correlation is not causation; but that the environment your body is in certainly can have an effect on your response to medications.

      • Dave Asprey

        +1 on the diary idea. It’s important to know your kryptonite!

    • Dave Asprey

      There are some people for whom it just doesn’t work – individual variations in neurochem I suspect. Try something else! ?

  • Maxshralp

    Hard to see how safe it is when college students shouldn’t be taking it?

    • TL

      Can’t speak for Dave here, but I suspect, given my own research and experience on the topic, that it is unwise to mess with a developing brain. Current research shows that the brain keeps developing until around 25, with an added spurt of new neurons around this period. I think that may be a bit of the thinking behind the general precaution.

    • Andrew Nakamura

      I think its more of a general principle than a hard rule. I’m sure taking Modafinil even semi-regularly is better than swallowing down the Standard American Diet and the even more atrocious typical college-aged fare. Everything we eat affects our brain, and 90% of college kids simply give zero fucks about taking care of themselves. I’m 19 years old and follow many of the same biohacking principles talked about on this blog, including cognitive enhancement, supplementation, and sleep hacking (even doing this I still sleep much more than many of my peers), to great benefit. Are there potential hidden negatives? I suppose, but it’s a risk I’m willing to take. As Dave says, everything is a trade-off. We retain neuroplasticity well into old age and perhaps right up until death if we do it right, so if I fuck myself up I’m sure I can find some way to unfuck myself sometime during the 80+ more years I plan to live.

      And no matter what I get myself into, it’s still definitely healthier than how I lived the first 16 years of my life.

      • Sean

        “…give zero fucks” that’s poetry, bro!!!!

      • golooraam

        really well written, gosh knows how much damage my daily cheesesteak and curly fries fried deep fried in God knows what did to my brain…

        btw – have you tried the Nuvigil analogue from mymodanifil.com ? I decided to take the plunge and get some

        really hoping this pans out

        • Andrew Nakamura

          Nope but I’m going to order a small amount for my next batch. I remember reading something by Dave saying that Armodafinil leads to liver problems though. Will have to do more research.

        • Dave Asprey

          Nuvigil is awesome stuff I hear; if what you get is real, it’s the strongest. Not armodafinil.

        • golooraam

          of course I risk ruining the mood of my day by asking you Dave… but what do you mean by ‘not armodafinil’?

          do you mean it’s not as strong or as good? If it’s something like provigil I’ll take it – I ordered from mymodanifil.com and they seemed to advertise it as liking it…

          then I read about some liver stuff from the comments – I will be sure to just take only a few days a week on ‘really tough’ days whle making sure I eat very very BP to offset any liver issues (I guess eating some raw liver would help too)

          thanks again Dave

        • Endymion

          You’re confusing armodafinil (Nuvigil) with adrafinil. Adrafinil is responsible for liver problems because of its additional metabolism. It is a prodrug and needs to be converted to modafinil by enzymes in your liver. Armodafinil is just a stronger version of modafinil (the active R-enantiomer, hence the name AR-modafinil), so if that’s what you’ve got you don’t need to worry.

        • http://www.facebook.com/philgeorge Phil George

          Dave, isn’t Nuvigil just the pharma name for Armodafinil?

          Andrew & golooraam: The stuff they sell at myModafinil isn’t Nuvigil, its the Sun Pharma version.

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  • Cyrus

    So you don’t advise anyone to take it if they are 24 ? I am finishing college but I find myself having trouble focusing or sometimes getting things done, also sometimes lack motivation. Worst part is that I have horrible memory and difficulty articulating my thoughts into words (maybe I need to get more sleep)

    • Dave Asprey

      Cyrus, I was like that when I was 24. It was brain damage from toxins (seriously, I have the tests to prove it “toxic exposure brain damage”). You need to get on the BP diet quickly and get some sleep. ?

      • Cyrus

        Would you say that some of the toxins are from the fact that my mouth is filled with silver fillings? I am hesitant on having them replaced as I don’t see how the composite materials are any safer, they contain BISGMA or BPA which can wreck havoc on the endocrine system. Would taking Modafinil help in my case combined with the BP diet?

        • Joey

          Cyrus, I have had trouble with brain fog, lack of concentration, malaise, and memory/word retrieval as well and also contribute it to toxins. huge improvement with clean bulletproof living. also, yes…those mercury fillings are such bad news. I saw a video at a conference once that every time you bite down they release toxic vapor into your system. would you consider taking clean chloropyll/cilantro pills to chelate before and after and have them replaced by a holistic dentist? not sure what they offer besides composite these days though. Hulda clark recommends just having bad teeth pulled ( seems extreme I know). maybe they have something less toxic these days? porcelain? gold? Curious what Dave thinks about fillings too.

        • Steve

          Get those out now. Find a dentist that takes the safety of the removal seriously and get gold fillings as replacements. I believe those are the safest ones.

  • Joey Lentz

    Thank you Dave for taking the time to address our questions. really appreciate it, Joey

  • TL

    Thank you so much for this Dave, as well as the links for purchase. I’ve been taking Moda for some time now, but one of the most important things I would caution newcomers is: when on Moda, you’ll get better at what you do while you’re on it. So make sure you’re using it DELIBERATELY — with purpose as part of an extended effort for business or part of a study program for a test, etc. As with Aniracetam/Piracetam, what you learn while on it will condition your brain. I would hate for people to get better at watching soaps or surfing the Internet in a frenzy. Just a little bit of caution from the trenches. Thanks again.

    • Dave Asprey

      Yep. Provigil can make you more Darth Vader is that’s what you already are. ?

  • Endymion

    Some words of warning before rushing into the use of modafinil.

    The mechanisms of action for modafinil are unknown. Part of its effect is thought to be mediated by orexins, neuropeptides that promote wakefulness. Stimuation of orexinergic neurons has been shown to increase the concentration of amyloid-beta in the brain and the aggregation of amyloid-beta is concentration-dependent (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19779148).
    Amyloid-beta aggregation is implicated in the development of Alzheimer’s disease, so I would doubt the wisdom of taking modafinil and artificially accelerating the pathways implicated in this process.

    Using modafinil may increase your risk for Alzheimer’s disease, that’s the bottom line.

    The mechanism is plausible and while there are no long-term studies to support this, maybe that is just because these studies simply haven’t been done.

    • Dave Asprey

      An interesting study. But underactive orexin causes narcolepsy. It’s a spectrum – you want enough orexin to feel great, but not enough to (possibly maybe) get alzheimers. But look at what MCT does to alzheimers. Alzheimers appears to be “diabetes of the brain” and is tied to mitochondrial problems there too. We address all those with the BP diet!

  • Sean

    hahhaha “I *love* myself and know I’m “good enough.””… “and doggone it, people like me.” – Stuart Smalley

  • crioux

    I took modafinil once many years back, I don’t remember the dosage, but the stuff made my sweat and urine smell strongly of sulfur. I couldn’t handle smelling like rotten eggs. Thoughts?

    • Dave Asprey

      Bizarre! Never heard of this. A histame reaction?

      • Steve

        It smells kind of like the infamous asparagus piss. I thought everyone has this when using modafinil.

    • Michael Attanasio

      The strange smelling sweat and/or urine is a relatively normal response, just try googling “Modafinil Urine Sweat Smell”. I think it is the metabolites escaping through your sweat and urine but not 100% sure.

  • Adam Fiddler

    Hi Dave,

    Have you given thought to doing a similar article on what you take for muscle buildling? I’ve heard you mention you’re on testosterone and some other things, and am interested in how much you think this has contributed to you maintaining muscle mass without exercise.

    -Adam

    • Dave Asprey

      There are bodybuilders who are into muscle way more than I am. See “Geek to Freak” by Ferriss type stuff. My testo has little to do with it – I take a small amount of prescription bioidentical testo that keeps my levels at about the center of the curve for a male my age. The damage to my endocrine system from mycotoxins and being obese is such that my endogenous production of testo is pretty low. It’s much higher on the BP diet than it was without, but at max production, I’m in the lower quartile of the SD. My blood tests don’t show abnormally high testo levels; on the contrary, they’re a bit low usually.

      • http://www.facebook.com/alaskafishing Marc Theiler

        Dave, again, just wanted you to know, I admire you for your courage and sincerity. Keep fighting the good fight.

  • http://www.garmaonhealth.com/ Joe

    Just wanna say, if what you’re advocating on this site is beneficial to people, you surely deserve to make profits from the products you offer.

    • http://www.facebook.com/richard.patterson.7140 Richard Patterson

      Agreed!

  • Jay

    Hi Dave,

    Nice article! I’ve seen several doctors about my narcolepsy and all of them have mentioned how safe both provigil and nuvigil are, with very few side effects at all. However, one side effect that you did not mention was that these drugs have the potential to keep you awake at night time – not because you don’t want to sleep necessarily.

    Although you can go to sleep after taking these drugs, I noticed that if I take provigil/nuvigil several hours after waking up, instead of right after I wake up, then it keeps me up at night. Mind you I will be very tired but my brain just won’t shut down.

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  • George

    I live here in NYC. Without going into all the details, I really think provigil is what I need. Any suggestions on a doctor in manhattan that will prescribe it? Or anyone know where I can get a weeks sample to try?

  • John

    I would really like to try Modafinil/Provigil. Not just as a cognitive enhancer but to help my chronic fatigue and sleepiness.

    But I do not like the idea that there’s small chance that I’ll get steven johnson’s syndrome and have my skin fall off and have organ failure and death.

    How likely really is it?

    • Michael Attanasio

      I think that effect only occurred in children. 933 kids were tested, 2 developed what was believed be Steven Johnson’s, and neither died, according to Wikipedia. You could start at low doses and then increase? I suspect Modafinil would be very good as an anti-fatigue/sleepiness though BP dieting and certain supplements may work as well.

  • Dan

    This drug definitely can act as an anti-craving agent in getting off dopamine release type stimulants such as long term adderall abuse. in fact, when I used Nuvigil, the stronger version of Modafinil, I stopped taking 90mg adderall I was on daily for over two years.. it’s too bad not enough “studies” are given in understanding how this stimulant does NOT act like addictive stronger dopamine stimulants. While I’m not saying to use this medication only if you are trying to get off adderall, and switching to this, it has properties that could really help individuals that have become dependant on other stimulants. Modafinil is a much stronger “Waking agent” than any other stimulant because while it may not act nearly as heavy on your dopamine, hence doesn’t elevate mood like other stimulants do, it will keep you awake. Adderall decreases it’s potency eventually, causes in some people increased mental fatigue, which leads to mood disorders, irritability,etc..

  • Dan

    And yes, while there is no true understanding as the case with many cognitive, nootropic or in reality understanding of the affects of drugs on the neurochemistry of the brain(that includes herbs such as Kratom), it would seem being that Modafinil acts as a much more potent agent for aiding with mental fatigue in short and long term than say, Ritalin, Adderall, Concerta. Perhaps, Modafinil hits and binds to the adrenergic type receptors, stronger and lasts much longer than any other stimulant within that region of the brain??

  • mark

    Just ordered from mymodafainil.com Looks like I’ll be getting next week some time. I’ll be sure to post my experience with it.

    I’m a sleep deprived small business owner with a little girl coming due in September so I am hoping that this will help me maintain/increase my ability to stay on top of things.

    Does anyone have any recommendations of dosage ?

    • Michael Attanasio

      With supplements your best bet in general is to start small and adjust based on your experience. You should feel energized and very awake. You may feel overstimulated with too much and tired with too little. I started at 50mg (1/4 200mg pill) and it was a little underwhelming. I jumped to a whole pill (200mg) and it was too much – felt like a drank too much coffee. I then tried 1/2 a pill (100mg) and it seemed right – clean energy and very awake. You should not exceed one pill, though I know people who have with no issues.

      ALSO! By doing this and finding your most effective dose (if it is lower than 1 pill) you may save a lot of money!

      NOTE: I’m not a doctor, not responsible for your actions, and I do not recommend anything in this post for you personally. It is merely information I believe to be true. You know, disclaimer and whatnot :)

      • Chriscoc1

        I have been taking modafinal for several years as an answer for chronic fatigue. I am a professor and am now experiencing most of the side effects. I didn’t think it was the modafinal, probably because I didn’t want it to be. I want to know should I quit taking it straight out or slack off. I take 100 mg in the morning.

    • Andrew Nakamura

      Definitely keep it small. With me, less is more. The first day I got my shipment (from the same site), I took 400mg over the course of a day, divided into three doses spread out over a total of maybe 6 hours (100mg, 200mg, 100mg). I felt like shit. Whether that was due to the modafinil itself or just the circumstances of the day, modafinil did nothing to help. I did not feel awake, alert, or any mood-brightening.

      The next time I used 100mg, experiencing some of the effects, but I still felt a little tired while on it. Well, not exactly tired, but I felt like I could easily fall asleep. Note: This may be due to sleep debt, as I most likely have a lot.

      I went off it for two days and today I wasn’t going to take any, but I had an urge to for whatever reason, and I popped 1/4 of a pill (roughly 50mg) and holy shit man. I am awake as all hell and I feel great. More detailed testing required.

      • Dan

        interesting, maybe try Nuvigil. While there is some controversy as to whether Nuvigil quote on quote is actually stronger than Provigil is up for debate. Some say because Provigil’s patent expired, Nuvigil is sold as a stronger version of Provigil. However, it may be both are same strength, act on same areas of brain, promoting wakefulness, like no other stimulant does. While I’m not a guru in this matter, buying this online may lead to getting ripped off(added ingredients, or lack of main ones,etc..) Using 200mg 2x daily of Nuvigil(what I took) should definitely keep you awake. Just be sure to take it in a.m. and around 12p.m. You also want to probably take something like this similar times each day to keep your circadian rhythm stabilized, hence ability for mind and body to know when to stay awake, and fall asleep.

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  • AndrewinNH

    I noticed a bad reaction when I took modafinil and aniracetam near each other. I felt very hot, ill, jittery, foggy and couldn’t focus. I received none of the benefits of either, except that I was not blacking out. I have been on Provigil for 6 years for narcolepsy, so it only allows me to function normally. So, I have to pick and choose between staying awake and brainpower. Has anyone else noticed this?

    Dave- Thank you for your reply to my comments in the Dr. Wahls podcast. I am working on your recommendations!

    • AndrewinNH

      P.S. Before I contracted Lyme disease, for a few months, I was able to go completely off modafinil and caffeine without even trying by being Paleo. This was before/right around the time I discovered/implemented the Bulletproof Diet. Nothing beats that feeling of energy and well-being, except, that is, being Bulletproof with some Aniracetam. That stuff is amazing!

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  • carolyn.s

    I have been taking concerta (methylphenidate) for about 5 years for ADD and feel that I shouldn’t have to take pills to live the life I’m intended to live. I really want to eliminate as many pills as possible from my everyday life, but I’m used to operating at a much higher efficiency and I’m not sure that it will be practical to stop taking concerta. Could provigil be an adequate replacement for concerta? And do you know what the chemical difference between concerta and provigil is that makes provigil safer? Also, I notice differences in my personality with long term concerta use, is this noticeable taking provigil?

  • Leslie

    I think you mean “OTTAWA”, not “OTTOWA”. Makes me wonder about the quality of those smart drugs. Don’t worry, it’s only the capital of the country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/danny.j.albers Danny J Albers

    In Canada this is known as Allertec, and Health Canada has a few additional warnings issued on this, so please go in as knowledgeable consumers. We all have a duty to know the complications possible while embarking on any unorthodox approach if they are available.

    http://hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/medeff/advisories-avis/prof/_2007/alertec_hpc-cps-eng.php

  • sarah

    I said it once and I’ll say it again…if these smart drugs increase efficiency and make one “bullet-proof”, it’s alarming to see you spell “Ottawa” (not OttOwa) wrong in your article. We all make mistakes, but it’s the capital of Canada and perhaps a sign that these drugs give the illusion of efficiency more than they deliver the goods.

    • Rick Pack

      haha, I respectfully think that’s nitpicking. One’s ability to spell certain words will depend on so many factors including number of exposures to the word as well as how fast one is typing. As long as I can understand what word a person attempted to spell correctly and do not see numerous typos, I do not assume anything about the writer’s abilities.

      • sarah

        Again, it’s the capital of the country Dave lives in — and it’s a hilarious mistake when touting the benefits of smart drugs. Is it nitpicking? I don’t think so. I’m not saying Dave is stupid — he’s clearly an intelligent guy — but people tend to overestimate their efficiency on these kinds of drugs. I genuinely believe the slight euphoria coupled with the energy makes people feel like Supermen while performing at the same level, if not lower.

        • MR

          Sarah – seriously, please don’t waste our time with your judgemental attitude. I could point out at least two grammatical “errors” of yours in your last post, but I have a LIFE, and do not care to waste it on meaningless stuff! We are all trying to help each other here – why don’t you be a team member, and put your finger-pointing to rest.

        • amyskene

          Sarah, one needs to be smart enough to recognize the subtle difference between “smart” and “perfect”.

          Modafinil is proven to increase test scores – nobody claims it comes with a built in spell-checker.

          There are those who make good editors, and then there are those who become great influencers by getting a message out.

          My guess is the average visitor of this site is focused on something higher than being the editor.

      • MR

        I agree Rick!

    • NA

      not a valid point in rating the efficiency of a smart drug…If someone is typing from a smart phone it is very easy to misspell when on the go, sometimes phones respell and misspell words. Apply common sense to your logic, instead of writing snide comments from a dark room. If your not commenting to help or aid people in receiving helpful information, what is the point of your posts, other than being jack ass. There is such thing as placebo effect, but if you took the time to read any researching(s) on the cognitive effects of modafinil or any of its trade(s) and or pharmaceutical relatives. You would see that science says other wise, in regards to your condescending comment. Oh does my random use of capitalization or grammatical elements bother you LOL. My SmArT druGs must not be working today.

  • sarah

    I said it before and I’ll say it again…how can we be expected to believe in the efficiency of smart drugs when you spell the capital of Canada wrong (it’s Ottawa, not OttOwa). Makes me wonder whether smart drugs give the illusion of intelligence and efficiency more than they deliver the goods.
    And for what it’s worth, I’m not trolling and I have respect for what you’re trying to do — but let’s face it, this is a valid point!

  • sarah

    I said it before and I’ll say it again…how can we be expected to believe in the efficiency of smart drugs when you spell the capital of Canada wrong (it’s Ottawa, not OttOwa). Makes me wonder whether smart drugs give the illusion of intelligence and efficiency more than they deliver the goods.
    And for what it’s worth, I’m not trolling and I have respect for what you’re trying to do — but let’s face it, this is a valid point!

  • dexter

    I was actually taking your advice seriously until I found out that you depend on a stimulant to enhance your cognitive abilities and are actually encouraging its use. For the high school kids reading your blog, it really sucks that you encourage the use of a stimulant. However, I will still read the other portions of your blog, but I think you could go without the added stimulant.

    • amyskene

      It’s not a stimulant dexter. In layman’s terms it’s a “blocks the sensation of being tired” drug, much the same as caffeine except without many of the well-documented drawbacks.

      One needs to separate the propaganda we’ve all been fed throughout our life and try something for its effect instead of blindly accepting “the message”.

      After a great deal of research I tried Modafinil and can confirm that everything said about it here is accurate in my experience. Presently I only use 100mg, here and there, and it makes a radical difference in what I’m able to accomplish.

      Although it shows no adverse side-effects or addictive properties I would *knowingly* continue to use it even if I knew it would take years off the end of my life. Why? Because 75 great years are better than 80 mediocre ones IMHO.

      But again, Modafinil is NOT a stimulant.

  • mnmkid

    Well, i get my sleep interrupted ONCE a night (4 year old), i get up at 4 a.m. to go to work. Im sleepy through out the day not allowing me to teach properly n still coming home bringing work (papers n lesson plans). I try to be in bed by 10 p.m.. Told doctor at Kaiser all this, and this is what she said after i asked if Provigil could be prescribed to me. I did my research first, and found that Provigil would be very beneficial considering there is not much danger to it:
    Couple issues with the your request of provigil:
    1) it is not on our formulary at Kaiser -> therefore, even if i would like too not able to order it

    2) this medication is used for patients with narcolepsy and sleep apnea

    i do not order the stimulant medication on regular basis

    Thank you
    ……………….: SO, what am i to do now? Bummer. Id hate to even consider adderal or ritalin since in reality its Methamphetimine in a legal form. Anyhow, been doin Executive Diet for a lil less than a year, n my sleepiness n fatigue is the only thing i have not been able to def

  • http://www.facebook.com/alaskafishing Marc Theiler

    Great read Dave, thanks – true pioneer.

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  • David

    I received my order of modafinil today from http://modup.net. Took 1 x 200mg tablet , T+1hr starting to feel the effects, a clear calm alertness with a slight euphoric feeling.

  • Alex

    I can vouch for mymodafinil. I got my address wrong and customer service was incredibly responsive and fixed everything. They are great, highly recommend them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/aaron.ott.14 Aaron Ott

    I hate going to the doctor (we all know how long it takes to make an appointment) just to find out he is either not going to run needed tests or prescribe the meds I need. Does anyone know off the bat any doctors in central NJ that prescribe provigil?

  • DK

    NYC Referral? I used to take Provigil for 2 years, i would cut it in half and just take 100 mg a day around noon. It was an amazing drug. I am also very sensitive to most medicines, but had no side effects. I thought i should feel this way all the time because it helped me get over mild depression and cleared up horrible brain fog. It was amazing and i didn’t feel high, but really felt in my life and very aware in a most positive way. I did not feel addicted to it, because i would easily not take it for days or sometimes weeks. I suffer from extreme sleep deprivation and chronic muscle pain and out of about 12 things i have tried both holistic and over the counter, it’s the only one that ever helped. Needless to say, i have not been on it for 2 years because of the cost. Now that there’s generic though,and i’m wanting to try Nuvigil. Can anyone recommend a doctor in NYC that prescribes Provigil/Nuvigl easily. The doctor i used to go to is $500 out of pocket, which i can’t afford in addition the medication. I’m hoping there are cheaper specialists. I have complete paperwork to be prescribed this medication, with history of pain and sleep study. Any help for a good NYC referral is most appreciated. Thank you!

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  • Tom

    I take Vyvanse every day, which is like an adult version of Adderall (although less speedy). I bought some Modafinil from an Indian website after reading this post. Sounded like a good substitute – perhaps healthier, perhaps more effective at improving concentration and memory. However, I didn’t really notice any effect. I tried taking two pills (400 mg) and still didn’t notice much, if any, impact. The third day I tried it I felt a shortness of breath that was so unnerving I haven’t tried it since.

    Does Modafinil simply not work for some people? I was thinking I just received diluted pills, but my mind changed when I had the asthmatic-type attack.

    Just curious if anyone else has experienced this and whether it’s worth another shot.

  • james

    hey dave
    i was wondering dies taking JUST the pill on a daily basis (or 5 times a week) lower the effects in the long term?
    would you need to up the dosage? or type of stimulants?
    thanks

  • Michael

    Hi Dave,

    I appreciate any feedback.
    I recently ordered Modafinil and AlphaBrain.

    I have some questions.

    1) If you have tried both Armodafinil and AlphaBrain together, what effects have you noticed?

    2) My BMI is 19. I took 150mg of Armodafinil in the morning and 150mg around noon. I felt kind of nauseous after. Is this a sign of overdose or will my body get used to it over time? How much of a dosage would you recommend?(I know you are not a Doctor)

    This question is for anyone to answer:

    - Have you noticed any decline from your baseline concentration level after the effects of modafinil( or any of the brands) wear off?

    Best Regards

  • jaycetan

    put in an order 2 days ago with mymodafanil.net for the combo pack. very excited. will track results for both provigil and modafinil here.

    • jaycetan

      have not yet received tracking number. will provide eta when available.

  • EdwardCole
    • jeff

      do you happen to have a website for ordering, I personally am a little skep on sending too much through email

  • Anonymous

    Well, here’s my take after about a month. At 100mg modafinil is like the effects the author describes drinking bullet-proof coffee without the dang nasty taste (sorry, to me it tastes nasty and guarantees heart burn). I feel awake, alert, cheerful, comfortable in my station in life, and I am ready to tackle the day on 100mg. I can focus better and avoid distractions. But, on 200mg it is a different story. IF I have a focused task, then I’m like Hercules, or should I say Aristotle? But if I don’t have a focused task, then watch out. My brain is on overdrive and, as another blogger describes, I go down rabbit hole after rabbit hole after rabbit hole, and have soon blown a great deal of time researching everything and nothing. I also feel a bit “out of sorts” on 200 mg. So FOR ME: 100mg as the daily wonder drug (hope my synapses don’t turn to mush in 10 years), while 200mg is reserved for more traditional “cram time” types of situations, where I ensure I have my task well defined and laid out before me. I also plan on ensuring I don’t have the Internet in front of me when I take 200mg, as I could easily blow a day on Wikipedia studying everything from earthworms to Islam to supernovas to education theory to ….

    • ?. ??? ???????

      Really. I couldn’t describe it better .

  • prince bariya

    well i take this (Provigil) medicine since 3-4 months but i don’t get much more satisfaction from used this medication. it is totally waste my money. and it was gain more side effects in my body like headache etc.

  • jeff

    has anyone tried drinking bullet proof coffee and taking modafinil? maybe tweaking the doses and or amount(s) of either one so to not be over stimulated. I’m considering giving this a shot myself. I’m wondering if the combination of modafinil with a fatty acid complex will increase absorption and or offer any other effects to make the over all effects more prolific or just better in any way. Taking a fatty acid complex can have a better effect when taken simultaneously with thermogenics or stimulants, so if any one has tried this or has any suggestions or ideas id like to hear some thoughts

  • mitch

    If you live in Canada, it can be extremely difficult to get this over the border. I found one that seems to get through customs, super stealth. Google top10meds. And don’t start writing the URL all over the internet,llet’s keep it on the low so they don’t get too much heat and go out of business. I just want to help my Canadian friends cuz its fucking hard to source here

  • Isaiah

    Hey Dave,
    I was wondering where I should get modafinil. I don’t really want to get a prescription for it… Is there an online company or website that you trust and that you can verify the products efficiency and effectiveness? Thanks

  • http://twitter.com/Billy_Brown_09 Billy Brown

    I published several articles regarding “smart drugs” with many more to come at What is Nootropics?

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