A Bad Combination for Women: Intermittent Fasting and Paleo

June 13, 2012 · 88 comments

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If you’re one of the many women who read The Bulletproof Executive, this post is written for, and dedicated to you. Many thanks to Stefani Ruper of PaleoforWomen.com for writing an awesome review of research on Intermittent Fasting results for women. It is awesome reading for anyone who thinks that men and women respond the same way to diets.

People sometimes forget that in addition to being The Bulletproof Executive, I’m the author of The Better Baby Book, due from Wiley & Sons in December. This book details the program I put together with my wife, Dr. Lana, so we could have healthy kids with better genes and healthier brains, even though she was over 40 and had previously been diagnosed with polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS). The book is about how to use nutrition (paleo-friendly, but not paleo-derived) principles and epigenetics (the study of how environment affects genes) to enhance female fertility and pregnancy health.

I did this for my own family, and eventually we compiled 1300 references for the book that was underway for several years and is now at the publisher in final form. It is one of my most valued achievements because I believe it will help to improve the lives of the children of every woman who reads it. It’s the instruction manual on “How to Expect More When You’re Expecting.”

But for women who are already mothers, or who are looking forward to children, or women who simply haven’t decided one way or another, fertility and women’s hormones are vitally important. Stefani Ruper’s “Paleo for Women” list of principles is worth repeating here, because she does a better job of describing what a “Bulletproof” evolutionary perspective does for women than I do:

  • With an evolutionary perspective, a woman does not work against but instead works with her body.
  • With an evolutionary perspective, a woman listens to her body.
  • With an evolutionary perspective, a woman does not see herself as separate from her body.
  • With an evolutionary perspective, a woman loves and respects her body.
  • With an evolutionary perspective, a woman is free.
  • With an evolutionary perspective, a woman feels good.  
  • With an evolutionary perspective, a woman looks amazing and real. 
  • With an evolutionary perspective, chins come up.
  • With an evolutionary perspective, a woman is fierce.
  • With an evolutionary perspective, things aren’t perfect.

I’m so pleased that Bulletproof principles have helped the women in my life feel good, look amazing, and be fierce. That’s sexy, life-affirming, and so much more interesting than “Desperate Housewives.” That’s also why we have women like Emily Deans and Ashley Tudor as guests on Bulletproof Executive Radio. High performance is not just for men. It’s also for the woman my 5 year old daughter will become.

More than a few women have found BPE after trying Paleo and Intermittent Fasting and running into health problems after a few months. Many have found further success here, and I believe Stefani’s epic post just explained why. As she writes:

Many women find that with intermittent fasting comes sleeplessness, anxiety, and irregular periods, among a myriad of other symptoms hormone dysregulations.

This matches what I see – low calories lead to low energy, stress, and hormone dysregulation in both men and women, but it happens faster in women. That’s one of the reasons I don’t believe in caloric restriction as a generally healthy practice. In both women and men, caloric (or fat) restriction sends epigenetic signals that reduce fertility. In essence, fasting or low fat sends the message “Argh, a famine! Lack of food! Don’t reproduce!”

In men, it’s an evolutionary matter of convenience. If you reproduce during a famine, it’s uncomfortable, yes. But you don’t carry the baby around. If you’re a woman and you get pregnant during a famine, you have a much larger chance of dying when you’re pregnant or nursing because of the incredible stress it puts on your body. Low calories signals famine so a woman’s body gets stressed and stops being fertile until food supplies return to levels that can support reproduction.

Epigenetics is also the reason I don’t advocate “chronic cardio” or intense daily exercise for men or women. It sends the epigenetic signal, “A tiger is chasing you every single day. Your species must be under threat.” For men, this translates to, “Reproduce quickly and die.” For women, this translates to “Be fertile quickly (early puberty), reproduce quickly, and get out of the way (die) to make room (maybe to feed the tiger?).”

So the problems of caloric restriction, excess cardio, and intermittent fasting are related and express themselves in exhaustion, adrenal fatigue, and hormone problems, in both women and men, but women are more sensitive to these effects than men and feel the problems first.

Stefani also points out that MDA does a good job reviewing the health benefits of fasting  but that the sex-specific aspects of the hormonal response are unmentioned, and reproduction/fertility/menstrual health wasn’t mentioned at all.  She also writes:

Mark is attentive to who should and who should not be fasting.  He knows very well and cautions people against the dangers of fasting while stressed.  Still, the mere fact of being more sensitive to the strains of fasting simply by being a woman is, I would assert, pretty important for a woman who is contemplating or already practicing IF.  This goes nearly unmentioned in the blogosphere.

Amen Stefani.

Enter Bulletproof Intermittent Fasting. I used biohacking principles to make BP-IF easier on the body than “traditional” intermittent fasting, for the simple fact that it’s wasteful to apply more stress to the body than is needed to cause a hormetic change. I wanted to stay lean and muscular but didn’t have time to sleep 8 hours a night. I needed my stress hormones to do other things, so I created BP-IF.

BP-IF represents a simple way for women (and men)  to realize the benefits of IF without the risks to their health. Instead of going 18 hours without food, you have Bulletproof Coffee in the morning, which is low toxin coffee that doesn’t cause adrenal stress the way most coffee does, blended with a nice big hunk of grass-fed butter and MCT oil in it for breakfast with no carbs or protein. It tastes great.

The fat makes your body stay in ketosis so your physiology gets the benefits of Intermittent Fasting, but the fats provide enough fuel for your brain that you don’t get the same stress response. You still have energy (it feels like more energy than a normal breakfast provides), and you can still make hormones. You don’t even want to eat lunch when you have Bulletproof Coffee for breakfast.

Bulletproof Intermittent Fasting basically tells a woman’s body that it’s time for autophagy (cellular cleanup) and rapid fat loss (ketosis), but it preserves adrenal function more than normal IF. Since you’re actually using adrenal hormones (catecholamines) to burn fat, this *really matters* more for women.

Bulletproof Intermittent Fasting also doesn’t send the epigenetic signal that you’re in a famine and should shut down your fertility. In contrast, it sends the signal, “You are in a land of plenty, with an environment full of the types of fat that make for optimally healthy babies. Be fertile! Have babies!” If you don’t believe this is real, make “Get Some” Ice Cream and feed it to a woman friend (or to yourself!) to see the effect in real life.

Does Bulletproof Intermittent Fasting work better for women? Yes. One woman just lost 28 lbs in 28 days on Bulletproof Intermittent Fasting and told me about it this morning. Even the Rapid Fat Loss Protocol works better for women than severe caloric restriction, for the same reasons that BP-IF works, although I don’t recommend the rapid fat loss program for people who have time to do normal BP-IF.

These programs work better for men too. Several have reported that they broke through weight loss plateaus using Bulletproof Intermittent Fasting that plain Leangains or MDA-style IF couldn’t touch.

On top of that, the cold hands, brain fog, irritability and tiredness that come in the afternoon with traditional Intermittent Fasting don’t exist with Bulletproof IF. Our bodies were made to use fat for fuel – if there’s enough fat, we do well, and our hormones work, and we can still lose weight.

All forms of fasting, long term, intermittent, and Bulletproof, rely on catecholamines to melt fat. If you are psychologically stressed, physiologically stressed, lacking sleep, or you have adrenal dysfunction, you need to fix that before you try any fasting protocol. Higher fat intake combined with more pink Himalayan salt can do wonders for adrenal function.

There is a reason that stressed women crave fatty and salty foods – adrenal exhaustion. Listening to your body, then eating something soaked in butter and coated with salt is not just a good idea, it’s vital to your health. It will help you be a fierce, amazing woman who feels and looks good. And it will help you to safely practice Bulletproof Intermittent Fasting without harming your adrenals, your fertility, or your brain.

Now that’s truly Bulletproof, and it works for women and men.

 

 

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  • cz

    i found this fascinating. even though i’ve been on the fast five yahoo group for years, i have never been able to eat in a five hour window. i get too hungry in the middle of the night, too headachey in the morning, too hungry, too something! i usually eat in a 7 or 8 hour window. but the “better” i’ve been doing that, the more weight i’ve gained! it’s been perplexing. i even played with staying under 1600 calories a day while being quite active (bike an hour a day to get around town, do body weight exercises twice a week a la Primal Fitness MDA, and sprint once a week). i don’t eat wheat and very little dairy or nuts…if anything i should have lost weight, but i haven’t. i don’t know if it’s because i just turned 40.

    i tried the bulletproof coffee in the morning, but even with the superb beans at Ritual or Four Barrel in SF, I end up crashing the next day. I tried a caffeine-free bulletproof drink in the morning, but still felt hungry by noon, and ended up gaining a few pounds anyway!

    perhaps it’s my age, or perhaps it’s the weight i’m supposed to be at now that i’m better nourished (i’m presently 5’5″ and 130 lbs…i’ve always been 120 – 123 lbs).

    also, people say that having a protein breakfast is best, and when i have two eggs at 9a or 10a, i feel satiated and really good for four or five hours. i wonder if, for women, that kind of breakfast is better than a bulletproof coffee?

    in any case, i’ll keep trying and tweaking. this article is helping me be a lot more flexible with how and when to eat, and i really appreciate it!

    • dhnaomi

      It could be that you’re a “slow caffeine oxidizer” and don’t handle the caffeine all that well. You can find out by having your DNA sequenced (your ability to process caffeine is partially a genetic trait) via 23andme.com

      As for the breakfast thing.. I dunno, sister, I feel pretty great just having coconut oil or heavy cream or maybe a bit of bacon for many hours before eating my first meal. I don’t think it’s a female thing.

      I should mention that I’ve spent many weeks up to this point in full ketogenesis, during which time my body has become very acclimated to running wholly on fat for fuel. So that’s probably a piece of this puzzle.

      • Fatima

        Dave,

        I’ve been really excited about your bulletproof coffee lately and have been doing a ton of research and reading a ton of reviews on it but I also have seemed to gain a ton of weight since starting to use it and have become really swollen! I have had a swelling problem in the past and have been able to control it with my diet for a year now. I’m depressed to see it back. Also the caffeine in coffee seems to make me more anxious not energetic. I am trying to take some digestion enzymes with the coffee and have taken out the grass-fed butter and replace with raw cocoa butter and am skipping the ice cream for now. I think the fact that the butter is pasteurized may have something to do with my swelling. I’m thinking the raw eggs in the ice cream are the cause for the weight gain? A pound a day so far?

        Do you have any suggestions? I really like your idea and honestly really could use an energy boost these days. I was telling my husband I wouldn’t mind gaining more weight if it gave me back my energy ( I might be a little under weight) but so far this has not accompanied the weight gain..

        • Fatima

          btw… I forgot to mention that organic pastures has some nice grass-fed butters that are not pasture grazed which is to say it is practically raw still…maybe you should give this butter a try also? Might be a bit harder to find and a bit more expensive but I’m under the impression that you would rather eat quality ingredients if you can afford it. Also, in the past I have used high vitamin x butter from blue ice (which seems to be the same but more expensive) what are your thoughts on that.

  • maybol

    i started playing with IF in January and soon after, BP IF. it is now June and I haven’t had a period since. I am definitely not pregnant so no worries there but i often thought my diet change was possibly the reason. also, i went off birth control in January(for reasons because i’m trying to be more whole body, less chemicals) that i had been on for 10 years. i’ve lost over 10 lbs in the last 6 months. that “last 10″ most are always “neeeding but just can’t loose”. very much a working journey this year so far. learning things about my body and my will and strength. still questioning the whole no period thing. any like stories?

    • Dave Asprey

      Megan, your lack of periods may be because you changed birth control pills. Read Wiley’s “Sex Lies Menopause” for some solid ideas.

  • http://sidwelldesign.posterous.com/ Sidwelldesign

    I am a 30 year old woman who started BPE regimen March 1 with great results. Since my husband isn’t sold on all of it, I only do the food/sleep part, not the cool technology gadget brain stuff (maybe one day).

    I lost about 15-20lbs the first two months, no exercise. I went off BPE for a month while I backpacked Croatia since it was impossible to follow over there (remember, my husband isn’t a believer…yet).

    I have been back at it since we returned two weeks ago. I initially felt all the gluten bloat and “breadaches” (as I like to call them) go away but I feel like I’ve slowed down in terms of weight loss. Over the past couple of days I feel like I’m gaining weight.

    I’ve been really good at getting to bed by 10:30, awake to a cold shower, only 2 or 3 meals a day etc. but I just haven’t felt like I’m burning fat like I used to and I’m not doing anything differently that when I first went Bulletproof a few months ago.

    Also, I get this wave of sleepiness at 3:00 every day; like clockwork. I’m not sure if I’m “allowed” to nap so I haven’t.

    • D2

      The postprandial sleepiness that occurs roughly 8 hours after waking is normal for many people. Many people are actually biphasic (meaning that they sleep in two periods of sleep) sleepers without even realizing it. Although usually the night sleep is the longest period of sleep consisting of around 6-8 hours and the afternoon nap being around 20-30 minutes.

  • Ashley

    I’ve been drinking BP coffee in the morning for about 2 months now. I also have been making and devouring Get Some Now ice cream from time to time. I ovulated and got my period on my own for the first time in about 3 1/2 YEARS doing this BP thing. I’d been Primal/Paleo for about 2 years until stumbling upon the BPE. It was very tough trying to figure out what was wrong with my body and listening to everyone trying to feed me the ‘one size fits all’ message when it comes to diet and exercise.
    LOVE this post. I’ve been waiting to read this post for years. Thank you thank you thank you.

    • Dave Asprey

      Ashley,
      Wow! This is so great!!! Thanks for sharing. Fat is so good for women. Seeing women eat a meal of only salad is starting to make me sad. ;)

      • Andrea Feucht

        Unless it’s salad with rare grass-fed beef and a big honkin’ avocado on top. :-)

        • Dave Asprey

          I stand corrected! Salad based on meat and avocado makes me happy too. ?

      • Zorica

        My salads have olive oil/vinegar and MCT oil, grass-fed beef (or lamb), sometimes bacon, soft boiled eggs, avacado…:-D This is not just a salad…it’s a monster salad! But on the outside it can look like a ‘woman eating just a salad’. :P

        • Dave Asprey

          Yes, salad as a carrier for bacon is just fine!

        • http://twitter.com/luisarauz luisarauz

          Mmmmm Bacon Delivery System.

  • http://twitter.com/patrissimo Patri Friedman

    As someone possibly suffering from adrenal fatigue, I like the “all-fat” breakfast concept as a way to get ketosis with less stress on the adrenals. Note that protein breaks ketosis, not just carbs, so BP coffee works, but Atkins breakfast doesn’t.

    • Dave Asprey

      Exactly! And be sure to have some salt in the morning if you’re adrenal stressed.

  • Susan Martin

    OMG. Talk about timing. I just found this site TODAY from this post: http://www.theiflife.com/2-meal-coffee/ where Dave’s Bulletproof Coffee is addressed, and how I got here. Here you are addressing IF for women, which I was following from the IF Life. I was feeling guilty for having my coffee in the morning, and now it appears it’s a very good thing to have coffee. Yay!
    I have two questions – first, I am post-menopausal, so am not real concerned about fertility. ;-) Is it still that important to not fast completely for 16-18 hours? In other words, are there other reasons I should do the bulletproof coffee?
    Second – I tried to make bulletproof coffee this morning after finding the site. It did not work out so well. I put unsalted butter in the coffee, which of course melted. I could not get any foam with a hand-frother… I did not have MCT oil. Is it necessary for the foam? Would coconut oil work? I have lots of that. I’m not sure what I did wrong. But it did taste pretty good, albeit unfoamy… Any suggestions?

    • Christine

      I use coconut oil and my ninja chopper. Do you have a blender? I think speed is the key to froth.

      • Dave Asprey

        Big, bad blenders work best. Like Blend-Tec.

        • Denver

          Daves bang on, big bad blender, personally i assemble 125g butter, 1 tablespoon coconut oil, 1 square of Lidnt 90% and activate “Big, bad blender” 30 seconds on full and you got yoself one peng breakfast.

          I do fill the blender with hot water while the coffee brews in the french press as it keeps the coffee from losing some heat to the glass of the blender jug.

          I drink said brew every morning at about 7:30 a.m and eat again at about 12:30 dinner time. Convenient and nourishing. I have a mental acuity I didn’t have before. Amazing.

          Dave? Is MCT really that much better? Should I ditch coconut oil for MCT then or use both?

        • Dave Asprey

          The mct oil is 6 times stronger than coconut oil. I wouldn’t put it in there if it wasn’t significantly better. ;-0

    • J Praeger

      The best reason to do BP Coffee is that you feel freaking amazing on it! and your brain races for hours. that it helps you lose weight and your baby maker is just a nice bonus.
      I’d do BP coffee if it was BAD for me as it makes me feel so good! I use a little hand held AA baterry device and it gives me a little bit of a foam, but using Coconut butter makes it taste better, work better but I’m not sure about foaming better.

    • Dave Asprey

      Having fat during your fast will help to reduce stress on the body in my experience. It works better too!
      Coconut oil is ok, but MCT is 6x stronger.

    • Susan Martin

      Thanks for the replies! I am all for reducing body stress while trying to get healthier. I will continue the experiment and consider MCT oil! I used Kerrygold unsalted butter and Nutiva coconut oil today.

      Update on making bulletproof coffee – here’s your laugh for the day. This time, I tried using an immersion blender to make the foam. I had just used it to mix with and thought it might be a better idea than having to clean the blender… NOT. Think blending without the lid on… :-O Besides making a MESS, I did make a bit of foam, but of course I probably did not blend it long enough since moving the stick at all made puddles on the counter. I guess I will try the heated blender jar method tomorrow. It did taste good, though!

      • Dave Asprey

        Lol – the foam is better when it’s not on the ceiling!

        Some immersion blenders let you start slowly; those work great!

      • Andrea Feucht

        Use an XL coffee mug – I use a 16oz mug for about 6oz of BP coffee and the vortex usually stays contained. :-)

      • Damion Waltermeyer

        3-4 liter bpa free pitchers are your friend. Also, in smaller containers, rotate the stick counter to the spin of the blade to neutralize the whirling up the sides effect. I use an immersion blender in a 4 liter pitcher every morning for the coffee, it’s quick and easy and usually don’t even hit the 2liter mark. I tried it in a much smaller jug at a hotel in the south of spain during a vacation and quickly found I need a way to control the splash. Which is where the counter-spin idea came from. I also tend to cut the butter a few times for more surface area before I put it in the pitcher(pre-butter to prevent splashing) if I am in a rush.

      • Josh H

        I find the Magic Bullet really perfect for making BPC. I had one sitting around that I had never used, but found it so ideal that I went an bought a second one to use at my office.

        There is a good Magic Bullet bundle for sale at Costco that includes a travel-mug style lid for the canister, too.

  • Debbie Belcore

    Dave – perhaps you can add a bit more about how to quantify adrenal fatigue (temperature stability perhaps)? Thanks!

    • Dave Asprey

      Temp stability is more thyroid than adrenal. Easiest is seeing stars when you stand up fast, or you can shine a light at your eye from the side, and if your iris doesn’t stay contracted for at least 30 seconds (it starts trembling) then you’ve got adrenal fatigue.
      Salivary cortisol helps too.

  • Dan Williams

    My recommendation would be to move this — “If you are psychologically stressed, physiologically stressed, lacking sleep, or you have adrenal dysfunction, you need to fix that before you try any fasting protocol.” — into a more prominent position on the BP site wherever you’re discussing BP-IF. I imaine a BIG number of your readers are suffering from those issues and would do well to follow some of your other tips to get them sorted out first before moving on to the BP-IF protocol. Of course, for those who are seriously obese, its probably a toss-up which one is more important to hit first, but for those of us who are just trying to push towards optimal, I think there’s some danger in jumping into BP-IF without fully understanding the need to get the other systems in an optimal range first.

    Which is why I’ve moved back to eating a fat/protein breakfast and have started supplementing with L-Tyro and 5-HTP to work on some of the psychological stress issues…along with a number of complementary practices, emwave, etc. I’ve switched back to oolong tea instead of coffee also. I’m seeing better overall results in terms of energy, mood, etc. from a keto diet based on BP principles (the green side, etc.) than I was on doing BP-IF or carb-back-loading.

    In short, I loved the “feeling” I was getting on the BP-IF, but I’m not sure it was loving me back, or appropriate…at this time.

    I hope this doesn’t sound like I’m throwing stones at the program, more just trying to caution others to really take to heart what you said there and not just go running to it as a “one-size-fits-all” solution.

    • Dave Asprey

      Dan,
      Good suggestion! BP-if works for most people because they eat so many less toxins. It often reduces adrenal stress if salt is adequate. Adrenal glandulars are helpful too.

      • Dan Williams

        Thanks Dave. I’m basing the 5-HTP/L-Tyro on a combo of listening to Julia Ross and Dan Kalish on your and Sean Croxton’s shows. Hopefully that’s a good place to start until I can get in for some salivary cortisol tests to get a better idea exactly what’s going on with my adrenals. The post on stress today was a big wake-up call too. I’ve been half-assing it on some of those.

        • Dave Asprey

          I love Julia Ross’s work (she spoke at my SVHI.com nonprofit twice and is a total rockstar).
          That said, I’m deeply skeptical of 5-htp even though it does work for weight loss. It raises blood serotonin WAY too much, and we want brain serotonin to go up. I’d get a prescription for GHB instead. ?

  • Dan Williams

    Dave- What do you think about some of the work Dr. Peter Attia is doing around ketosis at his War on Insulin blog? Have you and Armi thought about getting him on a podcast? It seems like he’s doing some pretty great work with trying to advance nutritional science. I’d love to hear you guys talk shop on keto-adapting, calories in/out, high-fat diets, and all that jazz.

  • Andrea Feucht

    Thanks for the great post and links, Dave. I *do* have a question about women who lose weight while caring for their adrenals on BP-IF. How many calories are they getting? (And possibly, how low are their carbs…) I’m dead serious. It makes a difference to know that a woman who weighs 150lb can eat 2000kcal (or more!) of mostly fat and lose weight versus it taking 1400.

    I know that the truth is neither “a calorie is a calorie” nor “calories don’t count”, but rather that caloric content is but one aspect of an eating lifestyle. That being said, it still counts for something.

    Thoughts and experiences from other women are very much sought.

    • dhnaomi

      In my experience — I work with people who follow an IF sort of protocol called Carb Back-Loading — there is no single calorie total that can be relied upon for any given woman. It has to be felt out.

      I also see that women have different caloric needs depending on what’s going on in their lives. Resistance training adds a much higher caloric requirement than those silly exercise calorie counters might suggest, due to the high cost of repair and growth of muscles.

      A personal example: when I was breastfeeding and on an IF plan that looked very similar to the BP-IF protocol, I was tracking my food and eating close to 3000 calories a day. I was also performing about 20 minutes of resistance exercise 3 days a week. In this time (roughly 2 months) I lowered my bodyfat percentage from about 27% to about 22%.

      Currently, about 6 months after the breastfeeding relationship ended, I’m doing what we call “Carb back-loading style IF” and eating something like 2000 calories a day. I’m 135 pounds and 20% body fat, seeing slow but steady fat loss (and more importantly, still gaining muscle).

      The nice thing about eating a Bulletproof style diet, and following the BP-IF protocol, is that even if you overeat calories, it is virtually impossible to store any fat. Avoiding all carb and excess protein intake sees to that.

      And fat is immensely satisfying. It’s far easier — and far safer for your metabolism and retention of your lean body mass — to fast with little bits of fat than it is to fast completely or to try to eat “in moderation”.

      • Dave Asprey

        Well said! “And fat is immensely satisfying. It’s far easier — and far safer for your metabolism and retention of your lean body mass — to fast with little bits of fat than it is to fast completely or to try to eat “in moderation”.”

  • http://twitter.com/RadiantLux RadiantLux

    I am 44, 5’9″, and about 120 lbs overweight since 1995. I have been doing Chris Kresser’s Personal Paleo for the last 3 weeks. I was eating a lax grain-free low carb diet. This 30 day reset omits sugar, alcohol, grains, starches, dairy, nightshades and eggs (for my situation). I love eating eggs for breakfast but I’m off them now. I’m having bulletproof coffee with Upgraded Self beans. It keeps me going for about 4-5 hours until lunch. I have lost about 2-3 lbs per week. I’m tracking what I eat. I am averaging 2200 – 2300 calories per day with the breakdown being 75% fat, 17% protein and 8% carbs. I’m eating lots of veggies but this breakdown above is % of calories and not volume. This diet is satiating and enjoyable. I am excited to add the foods back in and find out whether I react to them or not.

    I think I like caffeine a little bit too much. I usually prefer black tea with raw cream. Even though I’m off dairy, I decided not to give up butter. I like the butter delivery system with bulletproof coffee. There was already decreased joint inflammation prior to starting paleo. I am noticing some unwelcome side effects such as irregular heartbeats that I didn’t have before. I think I have to switch back to tea.

    • Dave Asprey

      You might try switching to ghee if you’re doing the Kresser 30 day cleanse. I haven’t read up on it, but it sounds like the Bulletproof diet if you were to pull out eggs and butter. Egg allergies are a problem for many and doing a 30 day test of no eggs is a good idea if you’re having inflammation problems….
      The heart racing – how are your adrenals? Getting enough salt?

  • http://twitter.com/PaleoforWomen Stefani Ruper

    Hi Dave,
    I just wanted to say thank you, sincerely, so sincerely, for honoring the research and trends that we have begun unearthing in all of this. I am not 100 percent sold on BPE IF, mostly because I think fat helps with the adrenals but may leave out an important leptin piece, but honestly I am not sure… and so many people see positive results that I think the ultimate answer is to try it and see. That being said, it is fairly well attested to in the literature that fasting induces mental clarity and alertness in women as a tool for foraging for food, so we often feel benefits that may in fact ultimately lead to hormonal dysregulation (ie, insomnia to help us stay awake and find food). So we should pay attention to more than just energy, and also be aware of what’s happening with our metabolisms and fertility, etc, as we move forward. As a final note, there are probably differences for women who are overweight versus women who fall in the normal weight range, with IF stressing out the normal women more since their bodies are more sensitive to the fat stores.
    All that being said, I just wanted to get that piece out of the way and to say again that I am honored by your respect and attention. I love how you talk about your diet–paleo friendly but not paleo deprived–and the fact that you care about stress and men and women each and babies and holistic health. Well. All that is to say. Thank you from me and from the planet, which needs your kind of passion and approach.

    • Dave Asprey

      Stefani,
      Likewise, I appreciate your blog and what you’re doing! You’re right; a carb refeed every 3-7 days seems to handle leptin well. Adrenal extract during weight loss seems to help as well!

  • Ashley

    Here’s a link to Mark’s response to Stefani’s post:

    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/women-and-intermittent-fasting/#more-29763

    • Dave Asprey

      That was a good response. Too bad he didn’t mention bulletproof intermittent fasting which has better effects for women.

      • Mfb47

        Maybe he doesn’t agree with you.

  • http://twitter.com/timte timte

    What substance(s) in coffee is responsible for withdrawal symptoms? I wonder why some get headache when not getting their coffee.

    You say that toxin free coffee causes less adrenal stress. What about the caffeine, does that increase cortisol or adrenalin? I thought it did.

    • Dave Asprey

      Caffeine is what causes withdrawal headaches…but those happen 1-2 days after you stop drinking. The headache an hour or two after a cup of coffee is biogenic amines or mycotoxins or both.

  • Charlotte

    Wonderful post Dave! (I also loved Stefani’s.) I am a 39 year old woman and I have experimented with IF and it works well for me. I do not identify as ‘paleo’ – in fact I avoid all dietary labels (both kinds). I have lost body fat and gained lean muscle since I began experimenting with IF 3-4 months ago, I seem to sleep better, my digestion seems to function more efficiently and I have a feeling of improved overall wellness and energy. I tend to fast most days during the morning and only have a 1-2 cups of herbal tea with some coconut oil stirred through it until at least 12pm. I am rarely, if ever, hungry and my mind is clear. I am constantly in touch with my body and I break the fast if either of these change – it has maybe happened once in the last 3 months that I felt like I needed food before I could get lunch around 12.30-1pm. However, I do not have any obvious hormonal disruption and my stress levels are very low and I understand this is not the case for many women.

    Anyway, I wanted to share my experience and I also wanted to take this opportunity to thank you for sharing your knowledge and wisdom with us. You have taught me much! Namaste.

  • Evaline Jane

    Hi Dave! I started drinking bulletproof coffee a few weeks ago, have definitely been enjoying it. I am a 30 year old female, 5’10, 160 pounds looking to lose 10-15 lbs. I started doing BP-IF this week. Monday and Tuesday I did OK with it, by Wednesday at 1pm, I was starting to have an anxiety attack and tunnel vision (vision was going black around the edges). I ate a banana and a salad, and seemed OK after that (still a little light headed and weak though. I guess I am just wondering if you have had anyone else have similar results with this. I did not feel energized or good, but hungry and foggy minded. I am using your bulletproof coffee, Kerry Gold butter and MCT oil. I have recently been for a physical and my fasting blood sugar/blood tests all came back normal. I would love to be able to reap the health benefits of this type of fast, any ideas what could be going on here?

    • Dave Asprey

      You may not be ready for intermittent fasting depending on your health condition. Try adrenal extract (I like Pure Encapsulations) and additional salt. Just a lack of salt in the morning can cause those symptoms. Add 1 Tbs of honey at night. And see a doctor if you need to! ?

  • Meghan Kennihan

    I know a lot of women who are not the biggest fans of red meat…What do you suggest for clients who just don’t like red meat? Can they thrive on a paleo diet eating turkey, chicken, seafood, and eggs? Also, what are your thoughts on Boars Head Turkey Breast…. Honey Smoked, Oven Roasted, Maple Glazed… see [URL="http://www.boarshead.com/nutrition.php"]nutrition guide[/URL]…. are these ok?

    • Dave Asprey

      Processed chicken or turkey breast is a very bad idea for lots of reasons. Either is preserved with toxic preservatives or it will have biogenic amine or mycotoxin problems or both. Sadly, the type of fats in poultry are not nearly as good for you as the type in red meat. Adding more agents will help but not completely solve the problem.

  • kitty

    I am really glad you posted about this Dave. I felt so weird when I tried the Full fast with bulletproof coffee (but calorie restricted) and then after a couple days I suddenly was hyper,fidgety, and anxious. Thought about food all the time. My period came late that month and I hardly slept at all. Very frustrating. I read Stefani’s post on Paleo for women about fasting and the effects on women. I knew exactly what she was talking about. I referred to her website in the BPExec forum to another woman who was looking at extended fasting. I already stressed out my adrenals and thyroid with a long restricted calorie vegan diet with lots of soy milk (yum!!! not..) and TOFU (RIP thyroid). Not to mention the cardio everyday. Im going back onto the IF this week. Hopefully it will pump me for uni exams. :) I think the hardest part for most women is to just accept their bodies and listen to them. I ignored mine for so long I only just recently, after 8 months of dropping veganism, have begun to read my signals better. The bulletproof executive has been a real life saver. Thanks you :)

    • kitty

      Make that ‘Thank you’

    • Dave Asprey

      Kitty,
      You’re so welcome. Thanks for reading. Knowing the blog is helping people makes it more than worth the effort! ?

      • kitty

        I really enjoy the blog and forum. The blog is super helpful and the forum is great for us upgraded paleoists to share our experiences. Will you write more on women specific things? We really need it. :)

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_US7AQWDGWACZWOO2OGQPP4VFHQ Jason

    i tried intermittent fasting and i got sick the next day. BOGUS. Thanks for calling them out on their b.s.

    • Mfb47

      Just cause it didn’t work for you doesn’t mean it’s bogus. It makes a lot more sense than a lot of b.s. out there including having coffee with butter in it. Yuck.

  • Chameleon199

    I have been Primal for 2 years and just recently tried BP-IF. Caffeine makes me crazy. I get heart palpitations and anxiety. I have thyroid and adrenal fatigue, so I am thinking I should fix those first. Do you have any product recommendations?

  • Marc

    I’ve been doing leangains style IF for months now with no problems. I actually feel great.

    I’m wondering, though, what does the fat in the BP coffee do to the production of growth hormone? I’m assuming it breaks the fast, causes a release of insulin, and stops HGH production.

  • LadyBud

    Coffee, on an empty stomach, seems to make me hungry, with or without the GF butter and MTC oil. I was wondering if I ate a couple boiled eggs, or even just the whites, before a yummy cup of BPC, would that ruin my IF and throw me out of ketosis? I generally eat low carb and tend to keep my carbs around 50 grams per day. I look forward to your response. Thank you!!

    • Dave Asprey

      Sadly protein will break the fast. :( Maybe one soft yolk only (no white) may be ok for some. Results vary.

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  • Jessica Jane

    I’m a young, probably overtrained and certainly stressed-out female trying to get back my lean mean energy I used to have a few years back. I’ve eaten paleo since mid-2009 in combination with weight lifting/crossfitesque workouts but don’t feel as great as I used to when I started. I was wondering, can I replace coconut oil or grass-fed butter with coconut butter (aaaaamazing), or even coconut milk in the mornings instead? I get a little nauseated eating straight-up fat in the morning. Are there tactics to mitigate this response? Just consume less fat? Drink more water? Thank you, Bulletproof Exec! ;-)

    • Dave Asprey

      If you add relatively small amts of carbs or protein it doesn’t do the same fasting effect. Try betaine hcl and or lipase and or ginger capsules for nausea!
      Sent from my nobile phone. You understand…
      -Dave

  • dill

    interesting! i have coconut oil but i don’t like taking more than 2 or 3 tablespoons. seems too much!
    i remember a period when i pigged out daily on good dark chocolate – and lost ALOT of weight. similar concept? if you get the 90% and 99% chocolate it’s pretty much cocoa butter and polyphenols….
    cause i can’t take coffee.

  • http://www.facebook.com/summer.mcfarland Summer Walton McFarland

    Really interesting… I am pregnant and have naturally done IF and consistently tried to make myself conform to the 6 small meals a day adage, leaving me totally stressed and gaining weight. I am going to try to tweak my diet and see if it helps!

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  • joe

    you don’t have to starve yourself on IF. I eat 3000 calories a day on IF and lose fat and build muscle, following paleo diet.

    This article does not understand wtf IF is, or at least what lean gains IF is visit leangains.com fast 16 hours eat 8 hours

    • Dave Asprey

      Joe I ate 4000 calories and gained muscle on bulletproof IF

      Don’t understand your comments about leangains…of course I know it.

      Sent from my nobile phone. You understand….

    • margaret vasquez

      This post was more geared towards women. Obviously leangains has been proven to work great but the fact is that a lot of women don’t respond as well to plain IF. That’s why bulletproof IF is optimal for women. This girl with the username paleoangel I believe? went into severe depression and found herself breaking out and not losing any weight with normal IF.

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  • Jess

    Hi Dave,

    You mentioned your wife had PCOS. I have recently been diagnosed with this. My diet has been paleo for the past 3 years and my nutrient levels are all in check (recently had Spectra Cell blood test done). However, with my hormones out of wack, I’ve been gaining 1-2 lbs per week for the past several months. What did your wife do to get her hormones back in sync? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

    Thank You,

    Jess

  • Magda

    Hmmm. I have been doing BP IF for about a month and have put on weight instead of losing it. Anyone else have a similar experience?

  • Reka

    Hi, I’m very interested in how exactly Lana beat PCOS. I guess most of it was through the Bulletproof Diet but if you guys have a little time to point out the most important details for this syndrome it would be most appreciated. I lost the excess fat but still have very irregular periods which never bothered me before but now I’m worried about fertility.

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  • Naya

    Hey Dave,

    I want to put on healthy weight with the Bulletproof Diet.
    After serveral illnesses I´m lightly underweighted and I haven’t had a period since May.

    How can women gain healthy (muscle) weight the most effectively? Is it usefull to do Bulletproof IF or eat serveral meals a day?

    • Dave Asprey

      Eat several Bulletproof meals a day – no IF if weight gain is the goal. My wife gained 20lbs and then stabilized using that technique, and she’d been 20lbs under weight for more than 15 years, no matter what she ate.

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  • Lauren

    I’ve always tried to make my food as rich in nutrients as possible. Still, our everyday life sometimes does not allow to receive all vitamins and minerals from the food we take. I have read the article about nutritional supplements, it stated that supplements are necessary to support your body. After some research, I’ve decided to try military grade nutritionals – supplements which i considered natural and safe. Within 1 month I have already noticed the results. My tone went up, I was sleeping much better and my energy increased considerably. Now I am feeling better and stronger than ever before.

  • Jennie Martinez

    Hi Dave, so I’m a busy college student. Over the past couple of months I’ve gained LOT of extra weight from an absolutely horrible, unhealthy diet-mostly from stress eating. I’m around 155 pounds at 5’2. I’m looking to lose between 40-50 pounds. School and work can get pretty stressful at times and I’m wondering if BP IF would work for me. Also can you put coconut butter or cocoa powder in the coffee? Thanks.

  • http://www.facebook.com/brittany.l.shaw.7 Brittany Layne Shaw

    I think something to we all need to consider here is the context. It wouldv’e made sense for men to fast then feast since they were Hunters and would’ve had to stalk animals, sprint after them, and lift/drag them back to camp. When would women have needed to fast? They were probably taking care of babies back at the hut. I was a huge advocate of IF at first because it worked like a charm, but then I started feeling like everything in my body was rebelling. During 2010-2012 I was eating only whole foods with a few time a month treat grains, and was occassionally eating oatmeal, quinoa or Ezekiel bread during 2010-2012. I always had skin issues but everything else felt great. As of 2013 I decided to go totally grain free and started IF (20/4) and immediately dropped 8 pounds and felt awesome at first. My skin looked better than ever. About 10 lbs from my dream weight I decided to return to my sprints and weight HIIT w/os. I did three workouts that week and gained 12 pounds overnight. I kept up the IF and Paleo but it’s like my adrenaline and metabolism put on the breaks. I think I’ll do a full day fast a few times a month, but I am thinking about nixing the 1-2 meal a day idea and going back to something more regular. I was actually considering adding some gluten free grains like oatmeal and rice a couple times a week to balance my insulin, which always feels elevated on IF. I plan to keep up the 3x a week at least dynamic workouts, so don’t want my body to think it’s starving or in distress.

  • Sophie2

    all interesting and exciting info — Great and good. I have life-long allergic (severe rxs) to cows/ruminants milk and soy and wheat (not chemically lactose nor gluten intolerant per many and duplicate blood tests as well as morphia and sulfa, sulfites and some sulfates -a rare phenom). Suggestions for use besides butter — i can only use a small amount of coconut oil (organic extra virgin – cool processed). Not asking for medical advice just tips. Thank you.

  • Alison

    Fasting for 8 hours before bed always rebalances all my hormonal homeostatic issues immediately (regulates blood sugar, resets circadian rhythms when travelling, improves my libido, makes me feel much fresher in the morning, gives me good cognitive performance the next day, among other things). The trick is to be a complete pig before hand!:)
    I don’t suffer any of the things you mention here because before the fast I eat copious rich fatty foods and have as many calories as I would in a normal day. IF is definitely not a problem for this woman!

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